joo, toivotaan että on jotain ohimenevää pullistelua. Siihen saakka kiitän luojaa työnantajan Euroopan proxy-palvelimista...Bananas kirjoitti:Ai siitäkö se johtuu, mä luulin että mun koneessa on taas vikaa. Saattaa olla toi meneillään oleva puoluekokous syynä.maminglei kirjoitti:No nyt ne prkleen kommarit tempun teki! Plokkasivat Youtuben!!! Voi helevatan helevata...
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Shuai Jiao
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- maminglei
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- Viestit tässä aiheessa: 36
- Viestit: 341
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"Ma Minglei, you fat, not fit" - sifu Wong Jan Yum
- maminglei
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- Viestit tässä aiheessa: 36
- Viestit: 341
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No seuraavaksi voisit sitten koluta tudou.com:in. Hövelinä kaverina laitoin valmiiksi "wushu" hakusanan kiinaksi, löysi 2497 klippiä:niilahasko kirjoitti:Hei. Oliskos sulla mitään tietoa minne ne Kiinalaiset laittelee wushu klippejänsä. Elikkä olisko siellä joku suosittu video sivusto, josta voisi wushu klippejä. Youtuubi on jo aika koluttu tietyltä osin...maminglei kirjoitti:No nyt ne prkleen kommarit tempun teki! Plokkasivat Youtuben!!! Voi helevatan helevata...
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"Ma Minglei, you fat, not fit" - sifu Wong Jan Yum
- Mika
- etupotkija
- Viestit tässä aiheessa: 33
- Viestit: 93960
- Lauteille: Joulukuu 2004
- Paikkakunta: Tampere
- Etulaji: HIIT, girya
- Sivulajit: pilates, yinjooga
- Takalajit: Tanglang
- Yhteystiedot:
mronkain kirjoitti:Kyllä minulla ainakin toimii.KungFuMiäs kirjoitti:mitenkäs, toimiiko teillä hong kongin youtube? http://hk.youtube.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- Marko
Helsinki osaa olla aika kiinalainen paikka joskus, nääs.
- mronkain
- etupotkija
- Viestit tässä aiheessa: 2
- Viestit: 8623
- Lauteille: Joulukuu 2004
- Paikkakunta: Roihuvuori
Thank god for free proxies:Mika kirjoitti:mronkain kirjoitti:Kyllä minulla ainakin toimii.KungFuMiäs kirjoitti:mitenkäs, toimiiko teillä hong kongin youtube? http://hk.youtube.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- Marko
Helsinki osaa olla aika kiinalainen paikka joskus, nääs.
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Tosin mulla ihan työnantajan proxy, ehkä tuo honkkarijuutuubi luulee sitä kiinalaiseksi?
- Marko
- Mika
- etupotkija
- Viestit tässä aiheessa: 33
- Viestit: 93960
- Lauteille: Joulukuu 2004
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- Etulaji: HIIT, girya
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- Takalajit: Tanglang
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- niilahasko
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- Viestit tässä aiheessa: 3
- Viestit: 462
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- Paikkakunta: Helsinki
Sangen mielenkiintoista.... Mielestäni Shuaijiao ei ole valitettavasti hyvä laji mätkintä-elokuvaan(kommentteja odotellessa 8) ) No ainakin Japanilaiset miehittäjät saavat kirveestä. Jotenkin niin tyypillinen aihe monissa Kung-fu leffoissakin...Mika kirjoitti: Pätkä Shuaijiao-leffasta!
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no pain no game
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- Mika
- etupotkija
- Viestit tässä aiheessa: 33
- Viestit: 93960
- Lauteille: Joulukuu 2004
- Paikkakunta: Tampere
- Etulaji: HIIT, girya
- Sivulajit: pilates, yinjooga
- Takalajit: Tanglang
- Yhteystiedot:
- Tohtori Krabola
- päähänpotkija
- Viestit tässä aiheessa: 6
- Viestit: 8116
- Lauteille: Huhtikuu 2005
- Paikkakunta: Helsinki, Finland
- maminglei
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- Lauteille: Heinäkuu 2006
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My Shuai Jiao By Chet Quint
Hyvä kirjoitus Shuaijiaosta, kopsattu Kiinan parhaasta englanninkielisestä SJ blogista (http://www.shuaijiao.tv" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;):
As a BJJ black belt and former fighter, I am often asked, “Why do you train Shuai Jiao?”. The answer to this is simple: It works.
I was first introduced to Shuai Jiao through articles in Black Belt Magazine. They described this devastating style that was used on the battlefields of ancient China and Mongolia. These articles with which I was so fond of talked about neutralizing an attacker with the ground and using the body’s natural handles to execute joint-breaking throws and body slams.
All that made sense to me at that point in my life as I was working as a professional bouncer. I had already identified the need to develop skills to neutralize an opponent but still stay in the fight. Punching people in the face was most often NOT the first appropriate response to a problem and going to the ground in a bar was likewise a last resort. Letting the ground finish the fight for me made sense. Intrigued, I set about the task of finding someone to teach this style of Kung Fu to me.
My first glimpse of Shuai Jiao was through Daniel Weng of Cupertino, CA. Since I was living in Salt Lake City at the time, I had to be content with videos, so I purchased his entire set of Shuai Jiao videos which included instructionals and actual competition footage. I thought the instructionals were interesting but I was somewhat disappointed with the tournament footage. Here I was expecting to see this kick-ass-and-take-names martial art from Genghis Khan’s arsenal, but instead what I found was a competition more in tune with Judo. Not wanting to dismiss this out of hand, I made the decision to train the techniques and at the first possible opportunity go to Cupertino and try it out for myself.
I organized a group of several bouncers that I was working with and immediately started training. I took the techniques that were taught and applied them in a way that was described in the magazines. That is, I used it as a combat system and I eliminated all sporting aspect to the training. At nights, I would use the techniques when I was dealing with problems in the bar. Any technique that wasn’t working was quickly deleted or re-examined. This was a great time for me, as I was crafting this ancient style to a modern environment and more importantly, it was really working!!
The bar I worked was a pretty rowdy country bar so nightly fights and parking lot brawls were common. Fortunately, I had an extensive Wrestling, Jiu-Jitsu and Judo background to guide me. My interpretation of Shuai Jiao was used in around 40 or 50 real life situations and in that time it never really failed me. A few times I went to the ground while throwing my opponent (thank God for Jiu-Jitsu) but most guys never got back up to fight after the throw.
In my training I focused on the throws that that took guys down the hardest and locked out the arm on the way down. I was convinced that this is the ultimate bouncer-system. When I finally got to go to Cupertino I had the chance to at last train with real Shuai Jiao guys. Though they were entirely training Shuai Jiao as a sport, I was still very impressed with their grappling skills. I started going to California on a regular basis and in 2002, I relocated to Monterey and started training in Cupertino regularly.
At this point the only styles I still actively trained was BJJ and Shuai Jiao. Even though, I had no real interest in sport Shuai Jiao, the guys at the club taught me to appreciate the true importance of sport sparring as a critical training aid and my skill started to really develop.
When I moved to Beijing in 2005, I started to look for a Shuai Jiao school. With the help of my good friends, Mike Wix and Zhao Yiping, I was introduced to Master Li Baoru. Through him, I have been learning the mainland style of Shuai Jiao. But again the emphasis is all sport. This time, however I was more prepared.
Master Li showed me things that really took my Shuai Jiao understanding to another level. Now I have come to really appreciate the sport of Shuai Jiao, though my training, my own personal interpretation of Shuai Jiao (and my Jiu-Jitsu for that matter), is all about street fighting. When I train for myself, all my clinch fighting is fought from a Shuai Jiao perspective but always with the street in mind. My real fighting experiences helps keep me on track and the Shuai Jiao training techniques we use here develops my grappling skill to a deeper level. In China there is a saying; “One year of Shuai Jiao is worth five years in a fist style.” I tend to agree.
Chet Quint is a Li Baoru student and a Gracie Jiujitsu Blackbelt living and teaching in China
As a BJJ black belt and former fighter, I am often asked, “Why do you train Shuai Jiao?”. The answer to this is simple: It works.
I was first introduced to Shuai Jiao through articles in Black Belt Magazine. They described this devastating style that was used on the battlefields of ancient China and Mongolia. These articles with which I was so fond of talked about neutralizing an attacker with the ground and using the body’s natural handles to execute joint-breaking throws and body slams.
All that made sense to me at that point in my life as I was working as a professional bouncer. I had already identified the need to develop skills to neutralize an opponent but still stay in the fight. Punching people in the face was most often NOT the first appropriate response to a problem and going to the ground in a bar was likewise a last resort. Letting the ground finish the fight for me made sense. Intrigued, I set about the task of finding someone to teach this style of Kung Fu to me.
My first glimpse of Shuai Jiao was through Daniel Weng of Cupertino, CA. Since I was living in Salt Lake City at the time, I had to be content with videos, so I purchased his entire set of Shuai Jiao videos which included instructionals and actual competition footage. I thought the instructionals were interesting but I was somewhat disappointed with the tournament footage. Here I was expecting to see this kick-ass-and-take-names martial art from Genghis Khan’s arsenal, but instead what I found was a competition more in tune with Judo. Not wanting to dismiss this out of hand, I made the decision to train the techniques and at the first possible opportunity go to Cupertino and try it out for myself.
I organized a group of several bouncers that I was working with and immediately started training. I took the techniques that were taught and applied them in a way that was described in the magazines. That is, I used it as a combat system and I eliminated all sporting aspect to the training. At nights, I would use the techniques when I was dealing with problems in the bar. Any technique that wasn’t working was quickly deleted or re-examined. This was a great time for me, as I was crafting this ancient style to a modern environment and more importantly, it was really working!!
The bar I worked was a pretty rowdy country bar so nightly fights and parking lot brawls were common. Fortunately, I had an extensive Wrestling, Jiu-Jitsu and Judo background to guide me. My interpretation of Shuai Jiao was used in around 40 or 50 real life situations and in that time it never really failed me. A few times I went to the ground while throwing my opponent (thank God for Jiu-Jitsu) but most guys never got back up to fight after the throw.
In my training I focused on the throws that that took guys down the hardest and locked out the arm on the way down. I was convinced that this is the ultimate bouncer-system. When I finally got to go to Cupertino I had the chance to at last train with real Shuai Jiao guys. Though they were entirely training Shuai Jiao as a sport, I was still very impressed with their grappling skills. I started going to California on a regular basis and in 2002, I relocated to Monterey and started training in Cupertino regularly.
At this point the only styles I still actively trained was BJJ and Shuai Jiao. Even though, I had no real interest in sport Shuai Jiao, the guys at the club taught me to appreciate the true importance of sport sparring as a critical training aid and my skill started to really develop.
When I moved to Beijing in 2005, I started to look for a Shuai Jiao school. With the help of my good friends, Mike Wix and Zhao Yiping, I was introduced to Master Li Baoru. Through him, I have been learning the mainland style of Shuai Jiao. But again the emphasis is all sport. This time, however I was more prepared.
Master Li showed me things that really took my Shuai Jiao understanding to another level. Now I have come to really appreciate the sport of Shuai Jiao, though my training, my own personal interpretation of Shuai Jiao (and my Jiu-Jitsu for that matter), is all about street fighting. When I train for myself, all my clinch fighting is fought from a Shuai Jiao perspective but always with the street in mind. My real fighting experiences helps keep me on track and the Shuai Jiao training techniques we use here develops my grappling skill to a deeper level. In China there is a saying; “One year of Shuai Jiao is worth five years in a fist style.” I tend to agree.
Chet Quint is a Li Baoru student and a Gracie Jiujitsu Blackbelt living and teaching in China
"Ma Minglei, you fat, not fit" - sifu Wong Jan Yum
- Mika
- etupotkija
- Viestit tässä aiheessa: 33
- Viestit: 93960
- Lauteille: Joulukuu 2004
- Paikkakunta: Tampere
- Etulaji: HIIT, girya
- Sivulajit: pilates, yinjooga
- Takalajit: Tanglang
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Re: Shuai Jiao
Videota lajista: http://link.brightcove.com/services/pla ... 1747848925" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Sama yllä mainittu mestari Li Baoru kertoo lajista.
Sama yllä mainittu mestari Li Baoru kertoo lajista.
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- päähänpotkija
- Viestit tässä aiheessa: 2
- Viestit: 6831
- Lauteille: Elokuu 2005
Re: Shuai Jiao
Lukaisin ketjun läpi ja ajattelin mainita seuraavan liittyen judon ja kyseisen lajin eroihin.
Judossa voidaan harjoitella pystylukkoja ja käden lukottamista ennen heittoa, mutta luonnollisesti kilpailusäännöt estävät mm vastustajan käden tahallisen katkaisemisen kilpailuissa.
Noita youtube pätkiä Helsingin seminaareilta kun katselin, niin ihmettelin hiukan sitä, että ei kovalla lattialla hirveän kovasti voida heittoja harjoitella.
Judossa voidaan harjoitella pystylukkoja ja käden lukottamista ennen heittoa, mutta luonnollisesti kilpailusäännöt estävät mm vastustajan käden tahallisen katkaisemisen kilpailuissa.
Noita youtube pätkiä Helsingin seminaareilta kun katselin, niin ihmettelin hiukan sitä, että ei kovalla lattialla hirveän kovasti voida heittoja harjoitella.
- KungFuMiäs
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Re: Shuai Jiao
Ei toki samalla tavalla kuin Judossa ja tatamilla. Mutta se on suuresti tottumus kysymys, jos tulet alas huonosti heitosta niin kyllä sielä tatamillakin voi mennä paikat rikki samalla tavalla kuin kovalla lattialla. Kun taas jos osaa kaatua niin kovalla lattialla voi tulla paikat hieman helläks ja mustelmia syntyä monen tunnin treenistä, mutta samalla tavalla kuin tatamilla niin ei mitään vakavempaa. Se onkin osa treeniä tottua siihen kovaan alustaan, RBSD jne. .Noita youtube pätkiä Helsingin seminaareilta kun katselin, niin ihmettelin hiukan sitä, että ei kovalla lattialla hirveän kovasti voida heittoja harjoitella.
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- päähänpotkija
- Viestit tässä aiheessa: 2
- Viestit: 6831
- Lauteille: Elokuu 2005
Re: Shuai Jiao
Mihin asti mielestäsi tätä voi harjoitella. Judossa on ainakin helkutinmoinen määrä sellaisia tekniikoita joihin pitäisi olla melkoinen Jackie Chan, että kova kontakti olisi mahdollinen. Noissa videoissa kontakti näytti olevankin varovaista pääosin. Harjoitteletteko myös kovempaa esim erillisen mattoalustan kanssa?KungFuMiäs kirjoitti: Ei toki samalla tavalla kuin Judossa ja tatamilla. Mutta se on suuresti tottumus kysymys, jos tulet alas huonosti heitosta niin kyllä sielä tatamillakin voi mennä paikat rikki samalla tavalla kuin kovalla lattialla. Kun taas jos osaa kaatua niin kovalla lattialla voi tulla paikat hieman helläks ja mustelmia syntyä monen tunnin treenistä, mutta samalla tavalla kuin tatamilla niin ei mitään vakavempaa. Se onkin osa treeniä tottua siihen kovaan alustaan, RBSD jne. .
- KungFuMiäs
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Re: Shuai Jiao
Se on ihan yksilöstä kiinni, minulla ei ole mitään yleisiä käsityksiä tästä. Tiedän vaan että minua on tiputettu korkealtakin ja rikki en ole mennyt.Mihin asti mielestäsi tätä voi harjoitella.
Videot ovat avoimelta seminaarilta johon on tullut kaikentasoisia. Kaikki olemme olleet aloittelijoita tässä lajissa noilla seminaareilla. Ei ole ollut mattoalustoja seminaareilla.Noissa videoissa kontakti näytti olevankin varovaista pääosin. Harjoitteletteko myös kovempaa esim erillisen mattoalustan kanssa?
Jos kysyt minun omasta treenistä niin kyllä olemme tehneet myös mahdollisuuksien mukaan mattoalustoilla. Bajiin ei vaan kuulu niin olennaisena osana korkeat heitot, enemmänkin kaato/isku yhdistelmää, näitä tehdään yleensä kovalla lattialla.
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- Viestit tässä aiheessa: 3
- Viestit: 462
- Lauteille: Maaliskuu 2006
- Paikkakunta: Helsinki
Shuai Jiao
Tyylikkään näköistä shuai jiao tanko pyörittelyä..........
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no pain no game
helsingin wushu ry
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