Jorge kirjoitti:

Antti kirjoitti: Idean isä oli käsittääkseni Keith Kernspecht, mutta proggiksen toteutus oli Emin Boztepen käsialaa.

En tiedä sohaisenko ampiaispesää, kun en ole winkkarin asiantuntija, mutta jotenkin on jäänyt käsitys, että ko. herrat ovat winkkari- lähtöisiä/pohjaisia, mutta tekemisensä on aika tavoin omanlaistansa.

sinappi kirjoitti: Kuuluuko wing chuniin perinteisesti anti-grappling-tekniikoita vai onko wing chunin soveltuvuutta grappleria vastaan ryhdytty pohtia vasta jälkeen UFC 1:n. Missä taistelukentillä näiden tekniikoiden toimivuutta on testattu vuosisatoja?

KRK kirjoitti: 4th phase: Fighting with holds, locks, restraints, chokes, throws and counter-throws

Phases 4 and 5 are part of an additional advanced programme which is not taught at the primary level and cannot be discussed in detail here for reasons of space. These last two phases are of minor relevance for normal self-defense, whereas they gain in importance for e.g. police officers, who frequently need to restrain and subdue an individual without inflicting injury.

During his final grading, the advanced WT student must demonstrate the ability to use only "soft" techniques to subdue an attacker who lashes out wildly with his hands and feet, i.e. without using blows, punches or kicks. These are specialised skills and techniques which cannot be expected from the average practitioner.

5th phase: Groundfighting

The 5th and last phase is part of an additional, advanced training programme which teaches pure WT-specific falling concepts and WT groundfighting principles.
Our groundfighting techniques superficially resemble those of other martial arts such as wrestling, Judo, Sambo or Chin-Na.
Holds and locks are however by no means an end in themselves in WT, but merely serve to gain control over the adversary and release one's own arm or leg for punches or kicks.

LT kirjoitti: What is improved [in Leung Ting WingTsun]?
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2] Development of the 'gound-fighting' aspect, based on concepts of throwing and falling techniques that were absent from the original Wing Chun style.
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In the original Yip Man method, there were many techniques including [...] throwing, falling, grappling, anti-grappling, joint-dislocating, anti-joint-dislocating, etc. [...] This is a controversial topic that many of the direct students of the late Grandmaster still talk and argue about.

Distance #4 Anti-Throwing
Knee pressure – Not weight
• Books and videos can’t show you pressure; only instructors can. – Interactive learning.
When a person grabs you, the general reaction is to grab back – control. This is wrestling against wrestling. That’s what a wrestler wants, a wrestling match.
• WT does not do that. According to the Centerline Theory, we must attack forward. We stay back in TRAS (safe distance) until they move in. Then we attack forward with Kicks, punches or both at the same time.
• If the shoot in & grab our legs, we don’t punch their skull, but the back of their neck on the nerves.
• If the person does grab you, they may have too much pressure on you to hit them. They’ve stolen your balance. You can’t do one without the other.
You need balance first, then you can hit.
The higher you stand the more flexible you are verses standing deeper.
Distance #5 Grappling
Just because you’re on the ground, doesn’t mean that you have lost your balance. DRILL:
Demonstrate kicking concept is the same as punching Kick defense on the ground w/ circling
DRILL: Falling down and standing up
DRILL: Person tries to pass your legs – kick defense
(This will demonstrate that WT has the same principles on the ground and standing.)
• Show that Man Gerk has the same 4 principles to pressure as Man Sau.
Demonstrate the Guard passes Defense so that attacker can not mount or head lock you.
• Use multi-limb concept – when their face comes close punch them